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    December 21, 2012
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you're not going to stop criminals. >> the argument is still going on and very vociferous between those that want to sell the rifles and those on the receiving end of the carnage they cause. i want to thank all of my guests. it is a crucial debate. i am not pretending i am right about it all and i respect everyone's opinion and something as the president said has to change to stop the slaughter of innocent americans. enough, surely is enough. thanks very much. it is 10:00 on the east coast and we're coming from newtown,
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connecticut, a town that for a week now has felt much longer than seven days has been heavy under grief and also full of love and full of resolve to remember the lives cut far too short. we wanted to come back to newtown tonight not to argue or point fingers but to honor and to remember the 12 little girls, the eight little boys, six dedicated women who died at sandy hook elementary school one week ago today. today here in newtown at 9:30 in the morning bells rang out for each of those lives lost, the mothers and the daughters, the sons and the nieces and the nephews and the brothers and the sisters and the friends. we will remember them. [ bell tolling ] for the next hour we'll hear from family members because they want a voice and we want to give it to them, a voice to tell us
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about their children and how wonderful they were and how special they were and we don't want to focus just on how they died but how they lived and the lives they touched and they touch so many lives. we'll hear from the mcdonald family that graciously invited me into their home to tell me about their bright and talented 7-year-old daughter grace. grace's funeral was today. there were also funerals for olivia and dylan and mary and rachel. we will remember them. >> dylan hockley moved here two years ago. he was six years old. a special needs child, they chose this community for the reputation of the sandy hook elementary school. he thrived due in part to his teach thaer worked with him one-on-one. the hockleys kept a photo of her on their kitchen fridge and dylan would point at it every day. on friday he died in her arms as she tried to shield him with her
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body. they take great comfort in knowing that dylan was not awill be when he died. dylan loved to cuddle, play tag and bruns on the trampoline and idolized his older brother jake, his best friend, his role model and his parents say they cherished the time they had with dylan in newtown. we do not and shall never regret this choice. our boys have flourished here and our family's happiness has been limitless. olivia engel was set to play an angel in the church's nativity play last friday night. she was six years old. she was proud to lead they are family in saying grace every evening. her parents say her zest for life began early, a happy baby, that grew into a happy little girl with an infectious giggle and an affinity for anything fun. she loved dancing and tennis and soccer, drawing and singing. olivia also loved school, especially math and reading. she was proud to be a big sister to her little brother braden who
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has been looking for her ever since the tragedy. >> he keeps askings have via, where is vva. he is acting like any normal 3-year-old should. he is completely innocent, and she was completely innocent, and he has kept that innocence even if the nation has lost it. >> olivia's pastor said she was an angel in life and now she is an angel in heaven. grace mcdonnell loved school so much she used to skip on the way to the bus stop. the last time her mom saw grace she was smiling and waving and blowing kisses from the bus. she was 7 years old. grace loved to draw and point and loved the beach and her dream was to grow up to be a painter and lift on march that's vineyard where her family spent their summer vacations. they are parents say grace didn't have an ounce of hate in her and loved to draw peace signs. she loved music, cooking and the
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new york yankees. her parents write a beautiful and artistic soul, grace was truly a gift from god and represented all that was good in this world. mary sherlach felt she was doing god's work by helping the children that needed her the most. she worked as psychologist at sandy hook elementary for 18 years. on friday mary was with the principal, dawn hochsprung, when they heard gunshots. she both ran out to confront the gunman and both died heroes. mary was 56, just one year away from retirement. friends remember her as intelligent and warm and a caring soul and someone who was always there to lend an ear or a shoulder to a person in need. her family writes there are no words to describe the devastating loss that we feel at this time and our family has lost a loving mother, dedicated wife, and above all a wonderful, caring woman who was beyond dedicated to her students. rachel davino loved working
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with kids and wanted to help children grow into health and i happy adults. she was a behavioral therapist that start working as a teacher's aide. she was 29 years old. rachel was on the verge of big life changes. she was working towards a ph.d. on behavioral studies in autism and her boyfriend was planning to propose to her on christmas eve. on friday she, too, died a hero shielding a student from the gunshots. her family writes her maternal nature understanding and sense of patience with learning disabled were truly gifts she possessed. ultimately it is these gifts that would have given rachel a level of understanding and forgiveness during this time of crisis that many others wouldn't have. it is still so hard to imagine. there have been funerals every day this week here in newtown. multiple funerals, five today. on monday there was a funeral for 6-year-old noah pozner. i spoke with his mother a short time ago. she wanted to share a little bit
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about how full of life her son was and we now share that with you. we will remember noah. >> what do you want people to know about noah? >> he was a 6-year-old little boy. he loved running and playing with his siblings and he loved bubble baths and fire flies and he loved eating the inside of oreo cookies and he played the video gangnam style ad nauseum in the house. he was a bundle of energy like he was supposed to be. >> i understand he used to tell his siblings he managed a taco factory. >> yes. he was going to split his time as an adult between managing a taco factory and being an astronaut. >> okay. >> which is an interesting juggling act, i am sure. >> how are you holding up? >> most of the time i am kind of
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numb. i think about and i think every mom out there can relate to the fact of how long it takes to create a baby, those nine months, that you watch every ultrasound and every heart beat and it takes nine months to create a human being and it takes seconds for an ar-15 to take that away from the surface of this earth. it wasn't just my son. it was 25 other souls that left this earth that day because that weapon fell into the hands of a tormented soul. that haunts me. >> is that something you feel you want to be speaking out about moving forward? >> i don't think that far. i am on auto pilot right now day-to-day. i do think there is obviously a huge issue in society because we go from a cycle of death, grief and mourning, and then there is this numbness that sets in and
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then there is sort of this complacency because the next cycle of news comes, and i understand that. it is human nature. we don't want to remember how bad life can get. we don't want to remember that. how could we live if we did every day think of that? it can get that bad. i didn't think it was going to happen to my family, but it did, and it can happen to others. if there is a way for that risk to be minimized, whatever the answer is, i am not sure yet. i haven't wrapped my head around it yet. i certainly am no states woman, i don't have the answers, but maybe one day they will come to somebody. i hope so. >> where do you find the strength? you spoke at noah's funeral, and so many mothers and fathers have spoken at their children's funerals. >> i don't think that source comes from within us.
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i think it comes through us from our children. they wanted to know. they were here. they mattered. they all had families. they mattered. so did all of the educators who died that day. they all mattered. they all had families. they all had friends. they all had -- you know, if i asked everybody in this world who has ever loved someone who has ever had a human being in their life, was essential to their well-being to raise their hand, i don't think there would be many hands down in this world. every one of those hands in a reason why those weapons should not be out in the general public. >> is there anything else you want to say? >> i don't think so, anderson. i think i said everything i want to say. i am grieving. that's all. like we all are. >> i wish you strength and peace in the days ahead. >> thank you. >> i know it is hard. >> thank you. i will need it.
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>> there is a lot of people who need strength here right now. the message that their lives matter, those lives matter, it is something so many parents want to get across. we'll hear from more parents tonight and i will also speak with monsignor robert weiss who has conducted so many funerals and memorial masses this week giving comfort to a community tasked with the impossible, finding a way to try to say goodbye to children and to we loved teachers, to heroes. we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong,
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[ bells tolling ] there's the bells that tolled this morning at approximately the time of the shootings as they occurred one week ago today. the national rifle association gave its first statement today since the day that changed everything here in newtown, connecticut, and perhaps around the country, one of the worst mass shootings in the history hof the country. on tuesday, they said they were prepared to offer, and i quote, meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. unquote. the 4 million members strong nra is one of the most powerful and hard line organizations in america. when they say that things like meaningful contributions, people take notice. today, the nra's executive vice president wayne lapierre took to the podium and said this. >> the budgets, and you know this, our local police
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departments are strained, and the resources are severely limited. but their dedication and courage is second to none, and they can be deployed right now. i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> the congressman who represents newtown had a very strong reaction to the nra's statement, calling it revolting and tone deaf. i spoke to senator-elect chris murphy just a short time ago. >> senator-elect murphy, i wanted to get your response, your reaction to the nra's -- it wasn't really a press conference, just their statement. >> i was in grace mcdonnell's funeral. when i got out, i was shown a copy of the statement. i nearly became sick. by the time i had gotten to the
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next funeral, to little dylan hockley's funeral, the horror had already started to spread through the 200, 300 people who were there. dylan's family talked about the fact that they knew that something good was going to come from dylan's death, there was going to be change in this country. i can't speak for ian and nicole, nor for the other parents, but i'm pretty sure they don't think that change is more guns. that's essentially what the nra said today, that the solution to this mass killing in newtown is more guns in schools, in homes. more guns throughout the streets of america. >> yeah, there was a lot the nra didn't address. essentially, it seems to me they're also then calling for armed guards in movie theaters, armed guards in any public space. as you say, just basically weapons everywhere. >> listen, it doesn't make any sense. we're not going to live in a society where every building you go into has a security guard
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with a semiautomatic weapon. ultimately, the solution for this country is not for us to become one big armed camp. the solution is to make sure that these weapons don't exist in the first place. the assault weapons ban had been in place, anderson, i fundamentally believe, i know a lot of parents in newtown believe, there would be kids getting their christmas presents this christmas. because in ten minutes, with those 30-clip -- 30-round clips, this guy was able to destroy 27 lives in just under ten minutes. that shouldn't be allowed. and i think there are a lot of nra members who agree. i think wayne lapierre today is out of step with america, out of step with newtown, but i think he's out of step with a lot of his members and i hope the whole world saw that. >> he also mentioned a mental health database.
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beyond the possible inkbringment on rights that may have, that doesn't get around the loophole that gun show sales have because they often can do without background checks. >> one of the most absurd parts of his statement today is his insistence that we have a registry for people who mental illness. if you're treated for depression, all of a sudden you're on a registry. at the same time, the nra has opposed a gun registry so we can track who has these weapons. so the nra says we want to know who has a history of mental illness, but we frankly don't want to know whether those individuals or anybody else has a gun. it just doesn't make any sense. what this stunt was today was a smoke screen to try to distract people from where this country is moving. this country is moving over the last seven days towards sensible gun legislation that takes assault weapons off the streets, that takes the assault clips out of the hands of these mass murderers, and i don't think that lapierre or his organization can stand in the
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way of that any longer. >> do you think -- i have talked to a couple of mothers. one mother in particular said to me that she now feels fearless. she has gone through the worst pain imaginable and she now feels fearless. it was lynn mcdonnell, whose funeral you went to today, her daughter grace. do you think we'll be hearing from some of these mothers, some of these families in this, i guess what will be a battle down in washington? >> well, anderson, you and i were at grace mcdonnell's funeral today, and you saw the monsignor say at one point that he couldn't wait until these 40 parents were unleashed on washington, and he looked our way. i -- i think every parent is going to take their own time to figure out whether they want to be part of this process of change and what they believe the change should be. but i have a feeling that the majority of these parents are going to be marching on
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washinon. are going to be demanding change, whether it be more help for the mentally ill or developmentally disabled or stricter gun control, and they're going to be the best spokesman for this issue because they want to make sure that these 20 kids' memory doesn't just vanish from the scene. there's something good that can come from this, and once the grieving process is over, i do think we're going to have one of the most powerful lobbying forces that this country has ever seen in the parents and relatives of those that were killed last friday. >> senator-elect chris murphy, i appreciate you joining us. thank you. >> thanks, anderson. i should say we did invite the nra of course on the program tonight. got no response from them. a headline at forbes online describes what is going on with guns now after the tragedy. it reads the political backlash against gun sales is driving them upward. whatever you think about guns and gun sales, that's the bottom line. a big business dominated by retailers. walmart is the biggest, but is
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talking exclusively tonight to gary tuchman. >> this is walmart headquarters in bentonville, arkansas. the number one retailer in the world and one of the top sellers of guns, including semiautomatic weapons. david tovar is one of walmart's vice presidents. >> we have had heavy hearts this week just like everyone else has. we had a lot of discussions around walmart. >> walmart officials rarely go on camera and haven't since the shootings. none of the guns used in the shootings were purchased at walmart. the sheer number of guns the company sells is always a sensitive topic. although they don't sell guns on their website, it does list them there and directs customers to stores that sell them. after the shootings, they removed one from their website, the bushmaster ar-15 it is, however, still available for purchase in stores. has the decision been made to sell as many guns now as before
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the incidents in connecticut? >> we think it's important to strike the right balance between being able to serve our customers and also sell firearms in the most responsible manner possible. >> as many today as before the incident, though? >> that's correct. >> we went inside a walmart today where we did see an ample supply of semiautomatic weapons available, although the bushmaster ar-15 was sold out. i asked what conversations they have had since the murders. >> this week hooef had a lot of conversations internally and externally. we reached out to mayor bloomberg's coalition on responsible firearms. we have been a charter of their organization. we reached out to sportsmen's groups and others. >> what walmart executives ultimately decided is their customers want to buy these guns so there's no plan to change anything now. is there any collective guilt where you hear of a case where someone bought a weapon at walmart, a semiautomatic weapon at walmart and committed a crime
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because that has happened. >> unfortunately, those things do happen. we're like people around the country, mothers, fathers, parents, and we have heavy hearts when those unfortunate incidents do happen, but we do know that we have a very strong program to sell firearms in the most responsible manner as we can. >> walmart sells guns in less than half its stores but in 2011 did decide to expand their sale of guns to additional stores and increase inventory to ones already selling them. the reason -- revenue. guns are a very good business for walmart. when you decided in 2011 to sell more guns, was there ever any talk in these walls, in the executive headquarters and their proprietaries, you probably wouldn't tell me, but maybe we shouldn't sell more? maybe that would be considered irresponsible by the public? >> we make a lot of decisions on marketing based on customer feedback. >> feedback and not politics is what you're saying?
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>> feedback. one of our sayings at walmart is the customer is number one. that's who we focus on, that's who we listen to. they guide our decisions. >> but walmart could change their mind abruptly if one particular thing were to happen. >> if the law were to change, we would follow the law. >> gary tuchman, cnn. >> how do you comfort moms and dads whose first graders were murdered? what do you say to the boyfriend going to propose on christmas eve to the woman he loved or the husband who didn't expect to outlive his wife? it has been an overwhelming week for the virtual leaders of newtown. monsignor robert weiss has conducted six funerals in four days alone. he joins me ahead. we're at walmart with the simmons family.
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[ bells tolling ] one bell rang this morning for each of the victims of the massacre. we just saw five of the children who lost their lives in the shooting one week ago. we want to show you a picture now from the oval office this morning that we just got. president obama pausing during a meeting at 9:30 a.m. for a moment of silence for the
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victims of the shooting. it was appropriate that it was raining when it marked the moment that 26 lives were taken at that school. it sadly was that kind of day, bleak. what happened seven days ago has produced heartbreak beyond measure for the victims' families. the world shifted forever last friday and it will never be the same. you can feel the sorrow, you can feel the anguish in newtown, and you can also feel the strength. you can feel an incredible love and strength in this town. it's never been needed more than now. there have been two or more funerals every day this week. funerals for six of the children killed that were held at st. rose of lema catholic church. there will be another funeral there tomorrow. monsignor weiss conducted the services there. he joins me now. thank you for being with us. the strength of these families is extraordinary. you were saying this morning at a service that -- i was talking to a nun, actually, who said that out of five of the services she went to, parents of these children spoke at four of them.
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i mean, the strength is just incredible. >> absolutely. i think that's where we're drawing our strength from, from the parents. and it was amazing to me when planning these liturgies that the parents said we felt we should talk about our children. we knew them the best. one by one to us, the mothers and fathers come up to the lectern and share their joy. that's what they did. they put the tragedy aside to share the joy and all of the wonderful things about their children. >> grace mcdonnell's service, it was pouring with rain, and halfway through your remark, the sun came out. >> absolutely. before the service i was talking with her parents and mentioned the whole earth was crying with her this morning. her dad said, you know, she's going to make it sunny tomorrow. that's when i said, i think she anticipated and she made it sunny for us. you're right. in the first scripture, the sun broke through the windows of the church. these families are looking for signs.
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they need a hope to hold on to and know that their children are safe. i must say the families i have encountered this week have had incredible faith and trust in that. they have also found great consolation that these children were great friends with each other. they were happy children. they loved being together. >> and that they were together. grace's mom said she thinks about grace holding hands with her friends and holding hands in heaven now with them. >> as trite or whatever as that may sound, that's the consolation these families have. these children have each other, their teachers watching over them, their principal who is with them, and they're okay with the lord. people are shocked the faith of this community. this is a community where the families are raising their children in faith. and this town is rich in religious denominations and religious organizations. and these families find a great deal of consolation in them. >> in my own life when i had losses, i found the hardest time often kind of a week or two after, that often before the
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funeral, there's a certain adrenaline that keeps you going and then the world seems to stop along with you. at a certain point, people go back to their business and the families are left with their world frozen. it's going to be in the weeks ahead that the families are going to continue to need support and attention. >> i have been mentioning that at every service. it's a couple weeks, three weeks out that they need a pot of soup or you to sit down and have a cup of coffee with them. i want to commend you. you have been so sensitive to these families and not intrusive at all. i really want to thank you for that. it means a great deal to them that they're being respected, and their privacy is dear to them. i want to thank you for that because it's meant a great deal to them. >> it's been a privilege to talk to them and meet with them. you also said something this morning that really stuck in my mind and reminded me of something that grace's mom lynn also said to me, that she feels fearless. she has experienced the worst pain imaginable and she feels
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fearless, and she's kind of going to go forth unafraid. you said something about you imagine, you know, 20 moms, 20 families descending on washington. do you think change is possible, whatever that means? >> you know, if these children did not die in vain. i know that these parents are already organizing, and these children are not going to be forgotten. and if these -- the faces of these children, you have seen the photographs. if they don't change the way people are thinking in this country, we are in really big trouble. i just know that these parents are going to organize. they're going to make things happen. >> whether it's guns or mental health or school safety. >> just for the wellbeing of this world and this country especially. and they're bright people. and they have a bond that will never be broken because of their child. and i know that things are going to happen for the good. >> how are you holding up? >> you know, i must admit i'm getting tired.
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but these parents are really keeping me going. i look at their strength and i figure if i can't keep going, what good am i? i have a great faith. this hasn't shaken my faith in the lord and in humanity. i'm looking at the parents and drawing great, great strength from them. this community, as i'm sure you have realized, is an incredible place of care. many people move here, they don't have extended family, so their friends become family for them and they draw a great deal of strength from that. that's what we're all about here. i'm happy not because of the situation. i'm happy that the world gets to know that there's still a community like this. >> i have heard so many people say to me remarkable things about you. i really appreciate you talking to us. >> i don't know if you have a green and white >> i do, and i have the bracelet as well. thank you very much. >> bless you. monsignor weiss. as we talked about, one of the funerals at his church today was for grace mcdonnell, 7 years old.
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in the week since the tragedy, i was able to get to know her family a little bit. they helped us get to know grace. they're going to share their memories about their amazing grace, next. [ bells tolling ] welcome to chevy's year-end event. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. get the best offer of the year -- 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. hurry. bonus cash ends january 2nd.
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we have tried to be careful and respectful of what the families here are going through. tried not to intrude on their suffering, but when they have approached us wanting to tell their story, we have been honored to hear about their loved ones. earlier, we got a call from the mcdonnell family, and it led to a conversation i will never forget. a conversation about grace mcdonnell. i spoke with grace's parents chris and lynn in their home several days ago and they told me about who grace was. we were all inspired by the strength that grace's parents showed. they said it's grace guiding them through the dark and difficult days. as we talked about with monsignor weiss, grace's memorial was today and tonight we once again honor her, a bright and beautiful it is girl we never had the pleasure of meeting but we'll never, ever forget. what do you want people to know about grace? >> well, grace had such a great spirit. she was a kind and gentle soul. and she was just the light and love of our family.
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she was just truly a special, special little girl that we loved, and she loved her brother so much. and she loved her school, sandy hook. in fact, this week, i was telling somebody she had a stomach ache one day and i said to her, why don't you stay home with mom? she said, no way, i have too much fun there and i don't want to miss anything. she would skip to get on the bus. it wasn't even -- you know, every morning, the backpack was packed the night before and ready to get on the bus in the morning and head off to school. we would blow kisses every morning to each other. i remember that morning putting her on the bus. she had a habit of blowing kisses and then she would give me a big liver lips like this, and i knew she was so happy to go off and get there. i would like to say that she was at a place that she loved so we take comfort in that, that we know she was in a place that she really loved. >> and with friends. >> and with friends. >> people who loved her.
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that's, i think, the whole community and the school and the teachers, they all -- they're all raising your child. and it's a special place. >> it is. and i take comfort that she was with all her friends. and i just envision all of them holding hands, and they're all together up there. and they're up there with their wonderful principal. >> what do you say? how do you -- because there are a lot of parents right now trying to figure out what to say to their children all around the world. >> telling him was by far the toughest thing to do. i think what we did was truthful, honest words he could understand, and hoping that he'll be able to process this and how we hope to guide him to process this in the long journey ahead. >> you met with president obama. what was that like? >> we did. we felt his support. it was really special. we shared some things about
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grace with him, her art. >> you brought him something? >> her dream was to live on the beach and be a painter. we offered him one of her paintings which he said he would treasure. that gave us great comfort, too. >> one of the things you were saying is you don't want to have hate or anger in your heart. >> no. i told jack that he could never live with hate. grace didn't have an ounce of hate in her. and so we have to live through grace and realize that hate is not -- not how our family is and certainly not how grace is. i know all those beautiful little children. they didn't have any hate in them either. >> it's a hard thing though, isn't it, sometimes, to feel that? >> we're going to go on and use her positive energy to help guide us forward. >> one of gracie's favorite things to paint or draw was a peace sign. and she just had her birthday in november when she turned 7 and she requested.
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i said, what would you like your cake to look like, grace? she said, i want a purple cake with a turquoise peace sign and polka dots. sure enough, her cake was purple, turquoise, and polka dots. it was totally grace, so colorful. >> one of a kind. >> she was all about peace. she really was. i was looking the morning after, i was in the bathroom and i used to dry her hair next to the window and the window would fog up and she would write notes in the window to me. on saturday morning, i'm standing at that window in the bathroom and it had fogged up and i looked and there was her peace sign in the window. i was like, that's a sign from my grace. and the pane above it said grace mom and she drew a heart. so she was all about peace. and she was gentleness and kindness.
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>> you went to the funeral home, and you were telling me the story of, she has a white casket. >> she does. and when we walked in the room, it was the first time we had been able to be with her. when we walked in the room and we saw that white casket, it just -- you felt like the floor was falling out beneath you and your breath was taken away. earlier in the morning, i decided because grace loved art so much, we were packing sharpies in our pockets. and when we got in, after we did our big family hug with grace, we sat down and we busted out the sharpies and we decided we were -- at first i envisions maybe a little heart, but by the time we were done, there wasn't an inch of white. it was so covered with all of the things that she loved. and her brother, we wrote her notes and her nicknames and all of the things she loved. cupcakes, ice cream cones, lighthouses, seagulls. we were saying she's laughing at
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us right now because our artwork is terrible. but when we left the room, it was certainly so hard to leave her because that would be the last time that we would be able to be with her. we had to take great joy in knowing that when we walked in there, it was so white and our breath was taken away, but when we walked out of there, it was like we had joy again. it had so much color, and it was grace. it was so grace. >> you were able to give her things as well. >> yes, we brought her her favorite pocketbook and we had seashells and flip-flops and sunglasses, and she loved to cook. we had a frying pan. she loved music. she has taylor swift's christmas song in there. she has her new york yankees. her dad's new york yankee hat. so she had all of the things that she loved with her. so we took -- we took -- we had peace when we left last night.
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>> it's got to be -- i mean, hard not to have been able to actually see her. >> well, at first i thought that, and i had questioned maybe wanting to see her. but then i thought, she was just so, so beautiful. and she wouldn't want us to remember her looking any different than her perfect hair bow on the side of her beautiful, long, blond hair. and so we'll take comfort in looking. we have so many beautiful pictures of her. we'll take comfort in remembering her beautiful smile and her -- i'll remember her blowing me kisses that day, getting on the bus, going off to school. >> and i told lynn and chris that every time i hear that song, amazing grace, from now on, i'll think of their amazing grace. and she wanted to make sure that
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whenever we do hear that song, that we smile, let it not be a sad song, but we smile with the memory of grace. there are other stories we're following. we'll have more from newtown coming up, but i want to check in on some of the other stories we're following. susan hendrix joins us right now. >> anderson, president obama laying out a possible agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president says it would protect middle-class americans from a tax hike, extend unemployment benefits and set a framework for future debt reduction steps. that announcement came after he met with congressional leader. lawmakers will only have a few days to make a deal after they return from christmas break. president obama also announcing john kerry to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. senator kerry currently chairs the foreign relations committee. president obama credited him with playing a central role in every major foreign policy debate for nearly 30 years and called on the senate to swiftly confirm his nomination.
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the u.s. marine veteran jailed in mexico on weapons charges is back in the u.s. tonight. his release comes from his mother. he was arrested four months ago after declaring an antique shotgun at the border. mexican authorities said the weapon did not comply with their gun laws. anderson. >> monsignor will officiating days ahead. so many are promising to remember the sandy hook victims. we'll be right back. thought.than i we actully keep track of how many times this kid picked his nose? tongue's out, hair pulls, stink eyes, man we see eveything. oh, it's the old man. hold on, i gotta send something out. you can have two apps open at the same time? how'd you do that? it's the galaxy note 10.1 man, it just does it.
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they had barely begun their lives. all of the victims, all of the children and adults had made an indelible mark on the world. we focused a lot on that this week. we tried to focus a lot on that this week. words cannot measure what has been lost. the outpouring of support and grief speaks to the loss, and we all grieve for this newtown. we will remember everyone who was lost. ♪ >> it is a tribute to the schools. because i have two kindergartners in school now. there's just no words you can say for it. ♪ >> the outpouring of love in the community and throughout the world has been unbelievable.
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>> we need to find some way to come together around all victims of violence. >> there was a group of students that had traveled from florida, i believe they drove overnight to get up to sandy hook. and they appeared at the memorial site and just started playing and singing. >> i feel your pain. i understand your grieving. and we're here for you.
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>> we want to come together and help, you know, our neighboring town. all around the world, all around america, people standing with people here in newtown. we'll be right back.
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[ bells tolling ] >> we want to leave you with a choir and a band from alabama that traveled here to newtown, connecticut, and sang amazing grace at a makeshift memorial here in town. they spent the week singing at funerals and memorial sites and it is a volunteer relief organization called naps made up of college students and graduate that is travel the world to places in need hoping to bring love and comfort to those who are hurting. the group says they are small in number but bring with them the love of millions. good night from newtown. ♪